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wendog33

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As far as I can work out, we have used 24 players so far.

15 forwards and 9 backs. How does the 30 player rule work?

Why was it that we can't we play Lewis?
 

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You select a top 30 squad at stsrt of the season and you can only use those players only way lewis can play is if nrl lets us or woods goes
 

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My understanding of it is that every team has 30 named players (confirmed by end of June).

1-25 are on full first grade wages.
26-30 are on reduced first grade wages.
On top of this each team can sign Development Players (it would appear there is no limit on them), HOWEVER the team must nominate them in advance and inform NRL they are Development Players. In addition to this Development players cannot debut and be named to play in squads, without special permission from the NRL (generally due to injuries and nobody in Top 30 that can cover them).

Lewis cannot be named as (it appears) he is a Development Player. I'd say Woolford and Bergamin are in the same boat.

Even with Foran injured (and Nu Brown), because we have Frawley and JMK capable of playing in the halves, Lewis is deemed unable to play.
 

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Lewis is named on the extended bench, wouldn't have thought they could do that if he isn't in the top 30.
 

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You select a top 30 squad at stsrt of the season and you can only use those players only way lewis can play is if nrl lets us or woods goes
Fuck him and mbye off. Time to start planning for next year. A wooden spoon might be needed to sharpen the boys up and instil some hurt into them.
 

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1. Mbye
2. Montoya
3. Hoppa
4. Jmoz
5. Bmoz
6. Frawley
7. Foran
8. Woods
9. Lichaa
10. Klemmer
11. Jackson
12. RFM
13. Fualalo

14. Eastwood
15. Tolman
16. Elliott
17. JMK

18. Fine
19. Brown
20. Tualau
21. Holland
22. Priest
23. Martin
24. To'omaga
25. Olive

Missing anyone? Who fills in the gaps?
 

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Imagine you had to include the players on your books who are currently playing for other clubs
 

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and this is the problem ... no one knows what the top 30 is .. so until that is known for certain, its hard to pass judgement..
 

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My understanding of it is that every team has 30 named players (confirmed by end of June).

1-25 are on full first grade wages.
26-30 are on reduced first grade wages.
On top of this each team can sign Development Players (it would appear there is no limit on them), HOWEVER the team must nominate them in advance and inform NRL they are Development Players. In addition to this Development players cannot debut and be named to play in squads, without special permission from the NRL (generally due to injuries and nobody in Top 30 that can cover them).

Lewis cannot be named as (it appears) he is a Development Player. I'd say Woolford and Bergamin are in the same boat.

Even with Foran injured (and Nu Brown), because we have Frawley and JMK capable of playing in the halves, Lewis is deemed unable to play.
Ratshit ! Lewis would be great about now
 

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Can you promote a player to the top 30 if their is a player in the top 30 who has sustained an injury and is out for the year?
 

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Can you promote a player to the top 30 if their is a player in the top 30 who has sustained an injury and is out for the year?
The NRL has the discretion to allow changes to the 30, but it is case by case and relates to who is still in the 30 and fit. So if you lose 3 halves for example and don't have anymore in the original 30, they may allow you to bring one in, but you couldn't bring a prop in to replace the half. It would have to be someone playing in the halves. That's why Lewis can't play. We have Lichaa, JMK, Frawley and Mbye - all playing in their right positions. That Foran is out doesn't matter. I suspect playing Lewis at centre was a bit about cover for JMoz if he went down, but Olive was already in the squad as cover.
 

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Lewis is named on the extended bench, wouldn't have thought they could do that if he isn't in the top 30.
I would suggest that during the discussions with the NRL last week that they said if you get one more injury to the halves we will give you special dispensation to play Lewis. That is the ONLY reason I can suggest why we are even allowed to name Lewis in the 21 man squad
 

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The NRL has the discretion to allow changes to the 30, but it is case by case and relates to who is still in the 30 and fit. So if you lose 3 halves for example and don't have anymore in the original 30, they may allow you to bring one in, but you couldn't bring a prop in to replace the half. It would have to be someone playing in the halves. That's why Lewis can't play. We have Lichaa, JMK, Frawley and Mbye - all playing in their right positions. That Foran is out doesn't matter. I suspect playing Lewis at centre was a bit about cover for JMoz if he went down, but Olive was already in the squad as cover.
What a wank of a system
 

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What a wank of a system
Yes, it's imperfect but it is an indirect way of trying to push some of the juniors in certain clubs to look elsewhere so they can make the top 30. Utimately it is about spreading the young and old talent around. May take a few years to bed in. Might be a bit too early to judge just yet.
 

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Clubs have maximum 6 development spots on top of the 30 man roster. They must fill minimum 3 each year. The development spots are $60k contracts - minimum 2 year deals.

If we have 3 this year then we can only add 3 maximum next year on 2 year deals and rolls those from this year over to other players come 2020.

I know 3 confirmed development sports belong to Brandon Wakeham, Zac Saddler, Sam Radovu.

It's a gigantic clusterfuck.
 

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1. Mbye
2. Montoya
3. Hoppa
4. Jmoz
5. Bmoz
6. Frawley
7. Foran
8. Woods
9. Lichaa
10. Klemmer
11. Jackson
12. RFM
13. Fualalo

14. Eastwood
15. Tolman
16. Elliott
17. JMK

18. Fine
19. Brown
20. Tualau
21. Holland
22. Priest
23. Martin
24. To'omaga
25. Olive

Missing anyone? Who fills in the gaps?
So are we saying the coach and club have nominated Wakeham, Ceruto etc in the 30 yet we didn't nominate our back up halves pairing in Lewis and Cleeland as cover for fg injuries? Seems pretty dumb.
 

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So are we saying the coach and club have nominated Wakeham, Ceruto etc in the 30 yet we didn't nominate our back up halves pairing in Lewis and Cleeland as cover for fg injuries? Seems pretty dumb.
Without knowing timeframes and what happened in preseason it's pretty harsh to judge... Just remember when pay was appointed.. and also remember that Foran was meant to solve our halves problem.. there are so many factors to consider, that people often don't think about...
 
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