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btw if you are allowed to roll on the grid without crossing the line then drivers should stop 30cm short and start rolling forward
 

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It appears that he does move just before the lights go out, but as he moved very little he probably hasn't crossed the lines in front of him.

Is that still a false start (genuine question from only a casual follower of F1)?

From the FIA:
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The jump start system judges whether a car has moved a pre-set (very small) distance between the point at which the last red light comes on and the point at which the lights go out

We have found that need to allow for some very small movement, as drivers sometimes need to make clutch adjustments in preparation for the start. This system, which is dependent on the official timing provided by Formula One, has been in operation for some 20 years and has proved extremely reliable in that time.

In this instance, Valtteri Bottas did not exceed this (very small) limit before the start was given.

Simply put: he made an exceptionally accurate and fortuitous judgement call, anticipating the moment the lights went out with great precision. Any movement prior to the moment the lights went out was within the tolerances allowed.

As per art 36.13 of the sporting regulation either of the penalties under Articles 38.3c) or d) will be imposed for a false start judged using an FIA supplied transponder which must be fitted to the car as specified.
 

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Lol it must hurt been a verstappen fan, he is completely and utterly destroying dan this season with pace yet has to watch him yet again on the podium :laughing: :laughing:
 

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Lol it must hurt been a verstappen fan, he is completely and utterly destroying dan this season with pace yet has to watch him yet again on the podium :laughing: :laughing:
Max has the faster car... but Dan nails the overtakes.

Only thing holding Dan back from seriously challenging the World Championship, is a faster car.
 

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Max has the faster car... but Dan nails the overtakes.

Only thing holding Dan back from seriously challenging the World Championship, is a faster car.
Yeah unfortunately for him it doesn't look like Renault will be able to provide redbull an engine capable of winning a WDC. Luckily dan's contract with em runs out at the end of next season, he ain't getting any younger so hopefully he doesn't make any alonso like decisions with his next team lol
 

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Should be a very, very easy win for lewis tonight in that mercedes rocket ship. The rest should be interesting, with grid penalties and the different order of the grid due to the rain in qualy, going to be good fight for the other positions..
 

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as predicted easy win for that ridiculous rocket ship in the back of the mercedes car but what an effort from dan, great job from him. Gee i hope he ends up in a team that isn't powered by that shitbox lemon renault engine.
 

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FKN LMFAO @ Singapore .. for anyone who watched the entire Post Race coverage.

#1 - Daniel Ricciardo in the drivers press conference asks Hamilton and Bottas if they mind if he farts. He does and then Bottas loses his shit and replies "try being up here now when buddy has just flown a kite nearby". Hamilton pissing himself laughing too.

*Note translation of that part is direct from Sky Sports/Fox Sports F1. The online Youtube video translation is wrong*


#2 Toto Wolf in post race interview nut checks Coulthard with his microphone.

 

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Haha classic stuff, i missed it as i fell asleep about half through the race
 

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2018 Draw/schedule

F1 first to take place in 2018 as calendar revealed
FORMULA 1 will make history in 2018 following confirmation of an initiative never before seen in the sport.

Matt Morlidge
Sky SportsDECEMBER 8, 20179:31AM


THE Federation International de l’Automobile (FIA) has confirmed the 21-race F1 calendar for 2018 following a World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris.

The schedule features the sport’s first triple header as France and Germany return while Malaysia drops out.

The only change from the provisional calendar is the date swap between China and Bahrain, with the Sakhir race now heading up the first back-to-back of the season.

Singapore was the only other event that was subject to approval at the time of the provisional calendar, but a new race contract was confirmed in September.





The 2018 F1 season will begin in Australia on March 25, the same weekend as this year, and end in Abu Dhabi on November 25.

The Azerbaijan GP in Baku will take place two months earlier on April 29, while the Russian GP in Sochi has been moved back to a late September slot after hosting this year’s fourth round.

But the major talking point is the three grands prix in three weekends — an F1 first.

After the French GP on the final weekend of June, the sport will head straight to the Red Bull Ring for the Austrian GP on July 1 before then going to Silverstone for the British GP on July 8.

In total, between June 24 and July 29, there will be five grands prix in six weekends ahead of the usual August summer break.


CHANGE TO THE POWER UNIT PENALTY SYSTEM

The FIA has also confirmed a modification to the heavily-criticised power unit grid penalty system, after many races of the 2017 season saw multiple drivers serving penalties.

They state that “if a driver incurs a penalty exceeding 15 grid places he will be required to start the race from the back of the starting grid.

“If more than one driver receives such a penalty they will be arranged at the back of the grid in the order in which the offences were committed.”

Teams will be limited to three of each engine component in 2018, rather than the four from this year, before they will receive a penalty for changing parts.


Teams will already be thinking ahead to 2018.Source:AP

BRAZIL SECURITY

There was also a discussion about improving security at the Brazilian GP after a number of incidents this year.

Mercedes team personnel were robbed at gunpoint as they left the Interlagos circuit after the Friday practice sessions, while another four attempted robberies took place over the weekend.

At the final World Motor Sport Council meeting of the season on Wednesday, it was recommended that the event’s promoter retained an “independent security expert” to “evaluate and advise on security plans, implement a police reporting hub at the circuit and improve overall communication between the promoter security, police and F1 stakeholders”.

“The World Council strongly urged the promoter to implement these recommendations and improve the situation ahead of next year’s event,” a statement added.

OTHER CHANGES TO THE 2018 SPORTING AND TECHNICAL REGULATIONS

— Regulations relating to procedures for starting or resuming a race behind the safety car

— Changing the event timetable to increase flexibility.

— Ensuring that testing of previous cars may only take place on tracks currently holding an FIA Grade 1 or 1T licence.

— Provision for demonstration events in previous cars which does not constitute testing. No such demonstrations may exceed 50km in length and only tyres manufactured specifically for this purpose by the appointed supplier may be used.

— Changes to ensure that oil cannot be used as fuel.

— Introduction of a detailed specification for oil.

— A minimum weight and volume for energy storage (batteries).

— Changes to position of cameras and wing mirrors to accommodate the Halo.
 

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With 3 PU's for the season, we are going to be seeing a lot of drivers start at the back of the grid. The tripple header is a good idea, would make for a great euro trip that one.
 

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Redbull launched their RB14, shame this is only a special edition livery, it looks awesome (apart from the new compulsory toilet seat).

 

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Oh dear, this would have to be right up there as one of the worst liveries i have seen on a modern F1 car, what on earth were McLaren thinking?

 

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what happens when you ditch Honda power units, tyres fall off :laughing::laughing:

 

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what happens when you ditch Honda power units, tyres fall off :laughing::laughing:

I saw it live as they are/were streaming the testing.. It was bizzare. He goes around and corner and next minute the ttyre just comes off and flips over the car.

It wasn't that it was loose as he was midway through the lap when it happened. Was almost like the entire tyre came off the hub.

Halos look completely shithouse though.... ugly and distracting for both the driver and the spectator. I'm calling it Formula Thong this year.

If it wasn't FIA enforced I reckon teams would pressure Liberty Media to remove them or make them optional.
 

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I saw it live as they are/were streaming the testing.. It was bizzare. He goes around and corner and next minute the ttyre just comes off and flips over the car.

It wasn't that it was loose as he was midway through the lap when it happened. Was almost like the entire tyre came off the hub.

Halos look completely shithouse though.... ugly and distracting for both the driver and the spectator. I'm calling it Formula Thong this year.

If it wasn't FIA enforced I reckon teams would pressure Liberty Media to remove them or make them optional.
The toilet seats are just rubbish, i mean geez it's motor racing, all the drivers know there are high risks in this sport. Anyway one very amusing part of the first practice, Toro Rosso with the honda 70 laps, McLaren with Renualt 10 laps :laughing: :laughing:
 
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