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Ever since he made the grade I said this guy isn't a halfback one day he could become a good five eight at best, but
I have lost faith as I believe all he does is try to prove to be a half that he is not, for years I have been saying he should be a FULLBACK
 

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I would fuck mbye off along with Lichaa and Graham. I think they've become toxic to the team.
I believe Frawley's drop in form is mainly due to him being starved of ball because lichaa constantly goes to mbye even when Frawley is calling for it. Graham has become worse than Gallen in that when we have a half chance he needs to get his hands in the ball, even if it kills the play.
Mbye has no vision and no organisation skills and avoids goalkicking at all costs. Letting him go would be the perfect solution to free up some space in the cap to get somebody better.
 

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I'd like to see it happen. For now he needs to be 5/8 until Reynolds is back. Why Des swapped Mbye and Frawley is beyond me.

When Reynolds is back to 5/8 give Mbye a run at fullback. Hoppa will be good at wing or centre.
 

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Didn't mean from the perspective of keeping him.

He cops a lot of flack here, very rarely given credit for what he did bring the team (when he was with us)

The point I was more making is that we never replaced losing a controlling half.

Hodko expected to be made captain after Ennis left, so that disillusion coupled with his pre-season knee surgery, for 2015, contributed a lot to his poor form 1st half of 2015
 

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I don't disagree that Mbye would be good at FB, but going slightly off topic - how is it that we're not in the market for either Holmes or Latrell Mitchell? Both wanting to play FB, both at clubs where the FB position will be taken by an established 1st grader (if you count Dugan going to Sharks as reliable) yet we're sitting on our hands doing nothing? Either would be better options and would be relatively cheap.

Allows Mbye to move to hooker with Woolford as back up on the bench so he can ease into first grade.
 

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Why not? The dogs love makeshift fullbacks.

This club hasn't had a proper fullback since Barba left.

Maybe after Mbye has his 2 weeks back there we can give Tolman a go. Be a change for him after playing number 7 for so long.
 

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I don't disagree that Mbye would be good at FB, but going slightly off topic - how is it that we're not in the market for either Holmes or Latrell Mitchell? Both wanting to play FB, both at clubs where the FB position will be taken by an established 1st grader (if you count Dugan going to Sharks as reliable) yet we're sitting on our hands doing nothing? Either would be better options and would be relatively cheap.

Allows Mbye to move to hooker with Woolford as back up on the bench so he can ease into first grade.
I've heard we are interested in Mitchell
 

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My reasons for giving him a shot at fullback.

1. His performance in the halves be it 7 or 6 hasnt been anywhere near good enough. Hes had more than enough time to showsomthing and its been a clear fail.

2. Hes on too much $$ to be justified playing dummy half longterm. If hes a success at fullback, then the contract hes currently on would be justified.

3. His game and strengths suit fullback. Very Fast, nimble, agile, good passing game, good support play. Hes definately not an organiser. Has all the attributes of a good fullback.

4. Fullback will give him the freedom to bobup wherever needed in attack, the sort of roaming role that he appears to be suited to.

4. Ben Barba proved physical size does not matter at Fullback. I really think Mbye has similar skills and ability to Barba.

5. Tyrone Roberts has been a revelation at Fullback since moving from halfback. If hes a sucess wearing 1, there is good reason to be confident that Mbye can also succeed here.

6.What do we have to lose? Hoppa misses games on Sundays, and Abbey has shown hes not yet ready for FG, BMoz does well but with his age and recent injuries doeant appear to be suited for the rigors of Fullback, so ×why not give Mbye the shot there to see if it will work.

7. Future Planning - Foran is coming. And with Frawley in our squad both are more suited in the halves than Mbye. Mbye has had enough poor games in the halves to show it just doesnt work there for him. With Woolfred around as a future specialist dummy half, and with no one yet convincingly securing the fullback spot if it works with Mbye it will be our long term solution.

8. Where else do you play Mbye? It hasnt worked in the halves. He will become an extremely expensive dummy half, and with the way Des likes to play our 9 as a tackling machine, this does not suit Mbye. If it doesnt work for Mbye at fullback or if hes not going to be tried there, he should be released.
Totally agree as does many others who bleed blue @ white on this forum and elsewhere but.
DES OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T SEE IT HE PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT TO SEE IT AND NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO CONVINCE HIM OF IT.
 

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I'm not sure he can read play well enough from the back to be fullback.

Most of the decent fullbacks talk and direct from the back of the field.
 
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The same reason why Holland shouldn't play fullback.

Both too light, and would get dominated.

Unless Mbye grew about 10cm and put on 10kgs he'd get picked up and carried over dead ball line all the time.
remember brett hodgson? he was too light and got dominated, but still proved to be a good fullback
 

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Interestingly enough, souths are signing Gagai on 700k per season, presumably to play centre as he is dogshit at fullback.

Maybe we should just put Mbye where he belongs and suck it up until his contract expires.

Personally, I don't particularly care where he plays, but he should never touch the ball for kicking duties.
 

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Mbye's strength in theory is his running game, he made 6 runs last round compared to Frawley's 11, those numbers are backwards on what logic would suggest. He should be running more, trying to set up plays less, and kicking almost never (not sure his kicking game is good at U20's level let alone FG, its closer to a U10's level)

For the year, he has made less runs than almost any other player in the team who is playing regularly (notable exception being Lichaa who has taken less, won't kick him for it because I assume we are letting him go already for his performance). Ben Roberts was a better ball runner based on the evidence available, so not sure Mbye is a running #6 either, but he should at least be giving it a go. He isn't a big tackling player so a running #9 would be his selling point, or, if there was a thought to him trying out FB, being in support and running the ball is 100% what he'd be doing, there is nothing stopping him doing that right now, he just doesn't do it a whole lot. He also tops the list for missed tackles so far this year, so marking him as our replacement to Lichaa next season defensively is a worry.

For me, the best position for Mbye would be somewhere in NSW cup once Reynolds is back, he seems to have got caught up in his media last year and maybe could use a wake up call. Worst case scenario there, he could serve as a expensive reminder to the club on why its a good idea to base recruitment on achievement and not hype.
 

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I'm not sure he can read play well enough from the back to be fullback.

Most of the decent fullbacks talk and direct from the back of the field.
Spot on. That's the right question.
Fullback is a reading roll in attack and directing roll in D - great view from back there.

The attraction is his acceleration, speed & step - but as you say a fb has gotta be able to read and call.
 

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I have been saying this for years as well. I doubt he will get a run, but would love to see it. Move hoppa to the wing, and mbye at fb.
 

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Why not? The dogs love makeshift fullbacks.

This club hasn't had a proper fullback since Barba left.

Maybe after Mbye has his 2 weeks back there we can give Tolman a go. Be a change for him after playing number 7 for so long.
you do realise barba was a 5/8 in our juniors right?? lol
 
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