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The Kennel selects the greatest 10 players since 1980. Number 2?
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I'm gonna say either ricky Stuart or Laurie Daley as number 2
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Cam Smith for 2 for me. Even though I don't like him much.
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And he couldn't tackle in either position
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None of the 3 will win this poll so stop your bitching
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No worse than many halves, and his defence as a fullback was pretty decent. Didn't really have to defend much though- that Brisbane side was the best side I've seen (I'm not old enough to have seen the Dragons in the 60's, and even the Dogs/Eels in the 80's was a bit before my time). The Brisbane 1998 side was simply elite- and no there is not a chance it was under the cap lol! Was dead set the Australian side haha!
His defence in later years was very good, and he always picked the right option.
1. Lockyer
2. Smith
3. Thurston/Johns
4. Thurston/Johns
Those are the top 4, with the top 2 for me fairly comfortable. I'd go Lockyer, but I can see the argument for Smith despite him being only a hooker.
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LMFAO at his defense being very good. He was a terrible defender his whole career. You saying Lockyer was a great defender proves you don't even watch defense. Lockyer is not even top 3. Your list is literally the worst I've ever seen. Joy maybe 4th LMFAO.
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His defence was decent, yes it was helped by having Tonie Carroll next to him, but every good half has some sort of bodyguard, it is the way it is. I never said Lockyer was the best defender at all, but was it beyond awful, no it wasn't. I said he dominated two positions, thus personally he's ahead of the others. Johns and Thurston are similar, switch them if you want. I have Smith easily ahead of Johns not even close. Best hooker I've seen period. Johns as good as he was...is he better than Langer, Stuart, or Thurston. Good halfbacks.
I will always favour guys who do it in multiple positions personally, especially when they were the world's best in those positions.
It is a subjective list you are welcome to have Johns at 1, I just don't that is all.
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It was awful. He was alway in the top 5 most missed tackles in the NRL even with Carroll next to him. He was always surrounded by rep players yet only won 1 title in his last 11 seasons. If Johns had those Broncos players he would've made the GF every year that he wasn't injured.
It's not subjective enough to have Joey at 4. Anyone that doesn't have Joey in the top 2 loses my respect when it comes to Rugby League. Shows me that they know nothing. It's like saying Michael Jordan is the 4th best basketball player of all-time.
It's not subjective enough to have Joey at 4. Anyone that doesn't have Joey in the top 2 loses my respect when it comes to Rugby League. Shows me that they know nothing. It's like saying Michael Jordan is the 4th best basketball player of all-time.
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This Newcastle side wouldn't be a top 4 side. Also if he played in Joey's day that wouldn't be true either.
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Hell even Melbourne haven't finished top 4 every year this decade
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9/10 is pretty damn good. lol
What I was getting at is that he makes any team capable of making the top 4.
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Cant vote on polls via app but CS9 for sure. Massively influential at every level
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Andrew Johns is clear number 1 by a long shot. He dominated games single handedly, irrespective of level.
He thrashed a Qld spine of Slater, Lockyer, Thurston and Cam Smith. Yes 3 of the 4 were still young and learning their trade, but none the less they had Lockyer to guide them around, but all of it was to no avail when up against Johns.
As far as best ever club side, NO SINGLE TEAM COMES CLOSE to the 93 and 94 Canberra side. They were completely on another level
He thrashed a Qld spine of Slater, Lockyer, Thurston and Cam Smith. Yes 3 of the 4 were still young and learning their trade, but none the less they had Lockyer to guide them around, but all of it was to no avail when up against Johns.
As far as best ever club side, NO SINGLE TEAM COMES CLOSE to the 93 and 94 Canberra side. They were completely on another level
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Funny thing is they were done for salary cap cheating a few years earlier...yet still retained so many players on 'pay cuts' lol.
Fuck they were a good team though - Stuart, Meninga, Clyde, Mullins, Daley, Walters, Croker, Nadruku, Nagas, Wiki, Furner - all Rep players...
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Mate there were other good teams at the time too.
Manly were very strong
Brisbane were very strong
We were strong
And Canberra blew them all away, if Stuart didn't break his leg in 93 they definitely would've gone back to back
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Growing up, the Raiders had interest from my home town as it was pretty much our "local" team, and I could recall the team from the late 80s/early 90s as well, if not better than the Dogs team of the same era.
Who would have thought as a great like Gary Belcher was retiring another superstar in Brett Mullins would pop up. You could add guys like Gary Coyne and Peter Jackson in the late 80s squad. And a young fella by the name of Glen Lazarus.
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