New Bulldogs coach Dean Pay furious at his team’s draw for 2018

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...8/news-story/38c9a9d56c838cf4f4b287be77a0945d
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...8/news-story/38c9a9d56c838cf4f4b287be77a0945d

NEW Canterbury coach Dean Pay has slammed the Rugby League Players Association for siding with the NRL over the issue of player welfare relating to five-day turnarounds.

Pay was far from happy that the Bulldogs were one of four clubs along with Wests Tigers, St George Illawarra and Melbourne hit with the equal most five-day turnarounds when the 2018 NRL draw was released.

While those four clubs have three five-day turnarounds, other clubs like Sydney Roosters, Newcastle and Gold Coast have none.

Parramatta, Brisbane, Manly, North Queensland, Cronulla and Penrith all have one, while South Sydney, New Zealand and Canberra have two.

RLPA boss Ian Prendergast issued a statement praising the NRL for what he claimed was a “fair and balanced draw” that included a further reduction in five-day turnarounds.

In actual fact, short-turnarounds only reduce by one game next season, going down from 25 to 24.

But citing an almost 50 per cent reduction between 2016 and 2018, Prendergast said the “balanced draw is a result of the ongoing collaborative approach that the NRL has taken in managing these issues.

“Five-day turnarounds have a significant impact on the overall health and safety of our members.”

Told of those comments, Pay responded: “Hip, hip, hooray.

“They (the RLPA) have obviously looked at it, haven’t gone into it, and said it is good for everyone.

“Like, seriously. You talk about looking after players. They talk about player welfare.

“It is what it is, we just have to deal with it.

“But we go from Townsville on a Saturday (in round six) to the Roosters in Sydney on Thursday (in round seven).

“And the Roosters don’t have any five-day turnarounds?

“There is nothing we can do about it but you would think it would come out a bit fairer than that.”

The Bulldogs also open the season with back-to-back games against Melbourne and the Roosters, who finished the regular season placed first and second.

All up, Canterbury has 13 games against top eight teams and play top-four sides seven times.

In comparison, the Roosters don’t play a rival top four team until round 11 against Brisbane and have the second least amount of games against top four opponents (four in total).

They also play the most games against the bottom four sides.

Parramatta also fared well with one five-day turnaround and only play top four rivals Storm, Roosters and Broncos once during the season, with six games against bottom four teams.

As difficult as it is to come up with a draw that is going to please every club, the 2018 edition certainly raises more questions about the fairness of the competition under the current draw format, where teams don’t play each other twice.

The Tigers were also hammered, copping probably the worst draw of any team.

On top of having the equal most five-day turnarounds, they start with an opening five rounds playing all top four teams from 2017 including premiers Melbourne twice.

They take on the Roosters first followed by Melbourne, Brisbane and Parramatta.

They then have to back up against the Storm in round five on a five-day turnaround for the match to be played in Auckland as part of a double header.

The Tigers then face Manly in round six followed by Newcastle in Tamworth and Parramatta again in round eight.

Not that chief executive Justin Pascoe was complaining.

“The draw is the draw, there will always be perceived winners and losers,” Pascoe said.

“We have little control over it as a club so what we can’t control we feel is pointless worrying too much about it.

“The fact we play a lot of this year’s top sides early we are excited about and will give us an early barometer on where we are as a football side.”
 

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Me thinks that Uncle Nick did the draw....
That Ian Pendergast is a fuckwit!! Even draw means if I have a 5day turn around, you have a 5 day turn around and we ALL have EQUAL AMOUNTS of 5 day turn around!!
Instead, fuckwit thinks that "I" have no 5 day turnarounds and you have 4 is the same....
Is that the reason Mr Pendergast you were driving a Hyundai Getz until yesterday and today you have a Porsche 959?
 
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What an absolute joke. WTF !!!!!

Pendergrast had important 2 jobs.

1 Seek a reduction in 5 day turnarounds = barely a pass
2 Fairness to all members in terms of reasonably equal allocation of 5 day turnarounds = complete and utter fail

His other jobs

1 Back the NRL - Excelled
2 Ensure the Roosters are looked after - Excelled
3 Ensure the NRL owned clubs Newcastle and Gold Coast are looked after - Excelled
4 Collect the new car keys from Uncle Nick - Excelled
5 Lay the boot into the Bulldogs like the NRL, certain referees & the media - Pass

Thankfully the changes at the club have been made as we will need the Dogs of War back urgently.
 

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Tell me two things:

1) Dogs get stuck behind the eight ball yet again; and

2) time to put money on the Roosters for Minor Premiers / top two
 

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Whilst our draw for next year isn't favourable and I think the three 5 day turn arounds are a joke, let's be realistic; we had a very very easy draw this year (hardly had to leave Sydney at all and we didn't play many of the supposed top teams from the previous year). To be the best you have to beat the best and whilst the conditions aren't favourable (a few five day turn arounds) let's hope we see some of that old Bulldogs spirit and rise for the challenge.
 

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New coach already making excuses lads, Pay already talking like a loser, its not a good sign or message to be sending to the team.

Pay is going to be a dead set disaster unfortunately.
 

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It’s almost like the administration is trying to sabotage the sport itself.

Why the fuck do you play one team twice in a month?

I hope the club fields a under 20s team in protest
 

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On a positive note, it's refreshing to see a Bulldogs coach with a bit of mongrel in him who isn't afraid to say what's on his mind.
Well Des did call the refs Voldemorts
 

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New coach already making excuses lads, Pay already talking like a loser, its not a good sign or message to be sending to the team.

Pay is going to be a dead set disaster unfortunately.
On the contrary, we did too much arse licking after the 2015 shaming which made us weak.
I love this guy.. It's us against the nrl
 

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Of more concern to me is that two of those 5 day turnarounds are coupled with long flights that further reduce the ability to manage the teams recovery and fitness. At least they could have managed that aspect of things a lot better than this. I do think that the "journalist may have sensationalized Pays response. He might have been a bit critical but the responses as quoted in the article don't lead me to the conclusion that he is furious.

Playing top four sides early in the season is hopefully not too big of an issue. With the two melbourne games being out of the way early on we may actually have a very small advantage in that they'll still be working at life after Cronks departure. But having the Roosters on a five day turnaround coupled with a reasonably big trip back from Townesville will make it virtually a four day turnaround. All in all though if we're not willing to knickle down under the pressure of short weeks is that it will test our resolve. If we come through it well it should add some confidence to the squad.
 

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New coach already making excuses lads, Pay already talking like a loser, its not a good sign or message to be sending to the team.

Pay is going to be a dead set disaster unfortunately.
While you're trolling there is some truth to it.

I fear Pay has been hanging around "wahh wahh" Ricky Stuart too much.
 

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What a shit article. So what, he is complaining about 5 day turn arounds. Who wouldnt. Its unfair on his players...

What he is doing could really be a genius move.... create a siege mentality. Dogs v the system... rally the troops around a common cause. Ricky Stuart is a shit coach but from a few players at Canberra. Ricky knows how to pull a playing group together.
 

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New coach already making excuses lads, Pay already talking like a loser, its not a good sign or message to be sending to the team.

Pay is going to be a dead set disaster unfortunately.
He might be trying to form a bit of a siege mentality.

Also as his comments especially referenced the RLPA, it's probably a message to the team that he has their backs.
 

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What a shit article. So what, he is complaining about 5 day turn arounds. Who wouldnt. Its unfair on his players...

What he is doing could really be a genius move.... create a siege mentality. Dogs v the system... rally the troops around a common cause. Ricky Stuart is a shit coach but from a few players at Canberra. Ricky knows how to pull a playing group together.
Agreed
 

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What a shit article. So what, he is complaining about 5 day turn arounds. Who wouldnt. Its unfair on his players...

What he is doing could really be a genius move.... create a siege mentality. Dogs v the system... rally the troops around a common cause. Ricky Stuart is a shit coach but from a few players at Canberra. Ricky knows how to pull a playing group together.
Yeah that's what he is doing, if it were hasler, it would be umm umm umm *nose whistle* umm umm
 
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