I'm disagreeing with you here.
I'm going to continue to disagree with you because I think you are wrong.
And you are going to continue to disagree with me because you think I'm wrong.
We are on a computer screen so no violence can be had.
If we were in each other's company right now and had this disagreement
Would you think fighting me would be the way to settle the disagreement.
Would that mean then that the strongest individual who wins the fight is correct in their argument?
If you are much larger than me, and during our disagreement you started to fight me, and because you are much more capable than me does that mean you are right and I'm wrong in the disagreement?
Or does it just make you a bully?
I think if that scenario played out
I'd think you are a bully.
I'd also think you are an idiot and couldn't get your point across like a sensible human.
I'd also walk away thinking you were a chimp.
See what I'm saying here.
I do see what you are saying, but this is why I said when conditions are met and sometimes the only reasonable solution, it is mainly based on the extremes or a criterion is met.
I do believe issues can be
mostly solved with reason and logic, but sometimes this is not possible with certain people and groups sadly.
If I was to argue with you over something trivial, I would not engage in violence because you do not or choose not to understand my point or I want to assert dominance, I simply ignore and move on as you aren't worth my time or I do not want to create division as some people take things personally in this manner.
If I was having a dispute or issue with you that affected me greatly and no external party could help or offer help, then yes, I would engage what I need to do even if violence is part of the solution.
Some people and groups do not understand or learn without violence usually at their expense period, if we take the simple bully example that has been brought up; please tell me how to solve the issue of a bully without violence?
If said bully continues their behavior after being warned, punished, educated and etc (trust me they do because I saw it happen to my younger brother and many other kids during high school), how do you stop it as you cannot simply ignore it? Very easy, you dominate them physically because you put them in their place and teach them a lesson forcefully they have chosen to reject...
From a personal experience regarding my younger brother getting bullied, we tried the whole report and leave it to administration thing, but it achieved nothing and it continued to a point of where it was affecting us greatly especially my younger brother.
So from my fathers instructions (he is a man with 3 PhDs in engineering so he isn't an idiot nor devoid of logic or reason) he informed me next time it happens to go and fuck up the kid who is doing it and anyone who tries to defend him (within reason lol), I was also in high school at the time.
I didn't want to smack up a kid younger than me and his brother from my year, but when the time came, that is what happened and the bullying stopped instantly.
We are a social species, but we still have our tribal nature and tendencies which can result in violence when required to solve disputes or issues.