Klemmer Charged

[Dogtime]

Does anyone know what argument they're using to fight the charge?

I dont know of course...nobody in their right mind would say before the time even if they do know....however to me its pretty obvious.

1. Klemmer doesnt get off saying NRL missed other instances so he didnt do anything wrong. This argument doesnt prove innocence, just proves match review personnel are incompetent.

2. Reviewing the whole Klemmer incident, Klemmer stands his ground beside the tackler and Soward. Cummins then walks towards the 3 of them to blow the penalty and stick his arm out. As Cummins approaches Klemmers personal space, Klemmer puts his hand up NOT TO INTIMIDATE the referee but to maintain his own personal space because he wants to tell the ref we have a player (Reynolds) down in back play and maybe play should be stopped in case hes seriously injured. If Cummins bothered to listen to players when they have a reasonable safety point to make, instead of being pig headed, then Cummins would acknowledge yes theres a player receiving attention and review the severity of the injury before blowing the penalty for play to continue. Remember the other ref had already marked the mark...Cummins was walking up to it to blow the penalty and stick his arm out.

3. Cummins walked into Klemmer. Klemmer did not owe Cummins a duty of care to not touch him when it was Cummins that walked into his space. If judiciary argue Klemmer did owe him a duty of care and it wasnt an accident then why didnt Soward owe the same duty when he bowled a ref over subsequently in calling for the ball and running himself to the opposite side of a ruck. Blind Freddy knows where the ref stands...it was Sowards responsibility to know it was unsafe to do what he tried to do. If Klemmer is guilty of an offence so too was Soward who caused a potential injury to a ref by being negligent in his action.

Im just glad we are fighting this. The NRL are run by a group of incompetents.

 

[Minion]

I dont know of course...nobody in their right mind would say before the time even if they do know....however to me its pretty obvious.

1. Klemmer doesnt get off saying NRL missed other instances so he didnt do anything wrong. This argument doesnt prove innocence, just proves match review personnel are incompetent.

2. Reviewing the whole Klemmer incident, Klemmer stands his ground beside the tackler and Soward. Cummins then walks towards the 3 of them to blow the penalty and stick his arm out. As Cummins approaches Klemmers personal space, Klemmer puts his hand up NOT TO INTIMIDATE the referee but to maintain his own personal space because he wants to tell the ref we have a player (Reynolds) down in back play and maybe play should be stopped in case hes seriously injured. If Cummins bothered to listen to players when they have a reasonable safety point to make, instead of being pig headed, then Cummins would acknowledge yes theres a player receiving attention and review the severity of the injury before blowing the penalty for play to continue. Remember the other ref had already marked the mark...Cummins was walking up to it to blow the penalty and stick his arm out.

3. Cummins walked into Klemmer. Klemmer did not owe Cummins a duty of care to not touch him when it was Cummins that walked into his space. If judiciary argue Klemmer did owe him a duty of care and it wasnt an accident then why didnt Soward owe the same duty when he bowled a ref over subsequently in calling for the ball and running himself to the opposite side of a ruck. Blind Freddy knows where the ref stands...it was Sowards responsibility to know it was unsafe to do what he tried to do. If Klemmer is guilty of an offence so too was Soward who caused a potential injury to a ref by being negligent in his action.

Im just glad we are fighting this. The NRL are run by a group of incompetents.

This kind of thing can happen when two people bump into each other walking down the street. There's nothing to it other than an unintended accidental invasion of personal space or at worst some personal contact. When this happens people usually just apologise and move on, no harm done, no one charged with assault or anything stupid like that. If the referees behaved as normal human beings instead of stuck up control freaks there wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Vlasnik]

the rubbish article from rothfield today wont help his cause now

Is there a link that can be posted???

 

[haz123]

the rubbish article from rothfield today wont help his cause now

The problem is all the media are showing that young tool punch the ref on the coast and then linking it to Klemmer saying shit like this is why we can't have players touching officials ect.
F-----n joke that young tool has a lot to answer to if Klemmer gets made a example of

 

[Vlasnik]

The problem is all the media are showing that young tool punch the ref on the coast and then linking it to Klemmer saying shit like this is why we can't have players touching officials ect.
F-----n joke that young tool has a lot to answer to if Klemmer gets made a example of

Klemmer is already a condemned man!!! Two weeks with no parole. This hearing tonight is nothing more than a farce, away for the NRL and match committee to flex their sagging muscles.

 

[Ahecee]

The Bulldogs can just argue the facts as they appeared. When the penalty was given Soward stood up, threw the ball at Browne and approached him, Klem stepped forward to prevent a physical altercation by putting a hand on Sowards chest, and breaking it up. At the same time, he was aware of a player down injured and was wanting to wave down the ref to inform him in case he had missed it obviously with his focus being on the play of the ball area and possibly allow for a pause the game for a moment if medical attention was required if the ref deemed it needed.

With Klems attention divided on these two issues, he did fail to put his hand down when the ref moved forward and walked into it, on feeling the contact and realizing he did immediately remove his hand. Therefore his contact was not deliberate, was well intended, and not deserving of a guilty charge in the spirit and intent of that rule, his conduct was not contrary.

Contrary: (Definition) inclined to disagree or to do the opposite of what is expected or desired.

The NRL would expect and desire players to be mindful of player safety, and also expect them to ensure ugly physical altercations where kept out of the game, and that is what has happened there. As a intentional touch was missed just seconds later by the opposition, its reasonable to assume this charge is more based on a charge from last season where Klem did approach a ref and engage in contrary conduct, a guilty plea was entered in that case and the penalty served, this case is very different and it is unreasonable to hand down another charge now out of a sense of bias and belief they are at all similar.

 

[Bob dog]

Are they trying to push stars out of the NRL?
F#CK the Nazi bullshit, without Klemmer the NRL would be shit.

 

[Kratos]

I dont know of course...nobody in their right mind would say before the time even if they do know....however to me its pretty obvious.

1. Klemmer doesnt get off saying NRL missed other instances so he didnt do anything wrong. This argument doesnt prove innocence, just proves match review personnel are incompetent.

2. Reviewing the whole Klemmer incident, Klemmer stands his ground beside the tackler and Soward. Cummins then walks towards the 3 of them to blow the penalty and stick his arm out. As Cummins approaches Klemmers personal space, Klemmer puts his hand up NOT TO INTIMIDATE the referee but to maintain his own personal space because he wants to tell the ref we have a player (Reynolds) down in back play and maybe play should be stopped in case hes seriously injured. If Cummins bothered to listen to players when they have a reasonable safety point to make, instead of being pig headed, then Cummins would acknowledge yes theres a player receiving attention and review the severity of the injury before blowing the penalty for play to continue. Remember the other ref had already marked the mark...Cummins was walking up to it to blow the penalty and stick his arm out.

3. Cummins walked into Klemmer. Klemmer did not owe Cummins a duty of care to not touch him when it was Cummins that walked into his space. If judiciary argue Klemmer did owe him a duty of care and it wasnt an accident then why didnt Soward owe the same duty when he bowled a ref over subsequently in calling for the ball and running himself to the opposite side of a ruck. Blind Freddy knows where the ref stands...it was Sowards responsibility to know it was unsafe to do what he tried to do. If Klemmer is guilty of an offence so too was Soward who caused a potential injury to a ref by being negligent in his action.

Im just glad we are fighting this. The NRL are run by a group of incompetents.

FMD this post is brilliant, everything I wanted to say. Bravo

 

[JUNKYARD DOGS]

Is there a link that can be posted???

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/13c31b37e063aefd0b94b0283ab49ecf

Central Coast referee bashing is why David Klemmer should be banned by NRL for ref touching

THIS is the reason why the NRL needs to maintain an absolute zero-tolerance policy on players touching referees at all levels of the game.



While the NRL incidents from last weekend were nowhere near as serious as this disgraceful assault on a referee in Wyong, the message needs to be delivered from the top.

Hundreds of thousands of youngsters watch NRL on TV and at the grounds every weekend.

They have a tendency to copy what their heroes do.

Like when the Fifita brothers Andrew and David verbally assaulted a referee in park football last year.

Canterbury forward Dave Klemmer will face the NRL judiciary tonight on a charge of coming into contact with referee Ben Cummins at Penrith last Thursday night.

It follows his aggressive verbal confrontation with Gerard Sutton in the Good Friday game last year at ANZ Stadium.

It’s a shame rugby league heroes like Brad Fittler, Paul Gallen and Andrew Johns have said this week that Klemmer should escape a suspension.

It’s time we all took a more responsible approach.

 

[south of heaven]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/13c31b37e063aefd0b94b0283ab49ecf

Central Coast referee bashing is why David Klemmer should be banned by NRL for ref touching

THIS is the reason why the NRL needs to maintain an absolute zero-tolerance policy on players touching referees at all levels of the game.



While the NRL incidents from last weekend were nowhere near as serious as this disgraceful assault on a referee in Wyong, the message needs to be delivered from the top.

Hundreds of thousands of youngsters watch NRL on TV and at the grounds every weekend.

They have a tendency to copy what their heroes do.

Like when the Fifita brothers Andrew and David verbally assaulted a referee in park football last year.

Canterbury forward Dave Klemmer will face the NRL judiciary tonight on a charge of coming into contact with referee Ben Cummins at Penrith last Thursday night.

It follows his aggressive verbal confrontation with Gerard Sutton in the Good Friday game last year at ANZ Stadium.

It’s a shame rugby league heroes like Brad Fittler, Paul Gallen and Andrew Johns have said this week that Klemmer should escape a suspension.

It’s time we all took a more responsible approach.

 

[Bulldogs09]

Blokes a germ, don't bother posting his trash. Looking for any attention he can get especially at our cost.

 

[The DoggFather]

Well using that degenrate piece of shit's logic, rothfield should lose his license because drunks drink drive.

 

[Fruitty Pebbles]

Fuk Rothfield.

 

[Raikkonen]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/13c31b37e063aefd0b94b0283ab49ecf

Central Coast referee bashing is why David Klemmer should be banned by NRL for ref touching

THIS is the reason why the NRL needs to maintain an absolute zero-tolerance policy on players touching referees at all levels of the game.



While the NRL incidents from last weekend were nowhere near as serious as this disgraceful assault on a referee in Wyong, the message needs to be delivered from the top.

Hundreds of thousands of youngsters watch NRL on TV and at the grounds every weekend.

They have a tendency to copy what their heroes do.

Like when the Fifita brothers Andrew and David verbally assaulted a referee in park football last year.

Canterbury forward Dave Klemmer will face the NRL judiciary tonight on a charge of coming into contact with referee Ben Cummins at Penrith last Thursday night.

It follows his aggressive verbal confrontation with Gerard Sutton in the Good Friday game last year at ANZ Stadium.

It’s a shame rugby league heroes like Brad Fittler, Paul Gallen and Andrew Johns have said this week that Klemmer should escape a suspension.

It’s time we all took a more responsible approach.

Please don't feed this troll by clicking on his article.

 

[Dognacious]

lol @ rothfield. What rubbish journolism. Klemmer gets walked into by the ref, and even if it wasnt the case Klemmer was hardly being aggressive. WTF has that got to do with someone bashing a ref in the bush leagues?

 

[KiwiDog7]

What sucks is we are 2 and 0 both wins on the road best start since 2012 and all we talking about is this

 

[dogluva]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/13c31b37e063aefd0b94b0283ab49ecf

Central Coast referee bashing is why David Klemmer should be banned by NRL for ref touching

THIS is the reason why the NRL needs to maintain an absolute zero-tolerance policy on players touching referees at all levels of the game.



While the NRL incidents from last weekend were nowhere near as serious as this disgraceful assault on a referee in Wyong, the message needs to be delivered from the top.

Hundreds of thousands of youngsters watch NRL on TV and at the grounds every weekend.

They have a tendency to copy what their heroes do.

Like when the Fifita brothers Andrew and David verbally assaulted a referee in park football last year.

Canterbury forward Dave Klemmer will face the NRL judiciary tonight on a charge of coming into contact with referee Ben Cummins at Penrith last Thursday night.

It follows his aggressive verbal confrontation with Gerard Sutton in the Good Friday game last year at ANZ Stadium.

#1 It’s a shame rugby league heroes like Brad Fittler, Paul Gallen and Andrew Johns have said this week that Klemmer should escape a suspension.

It’s time we all took a more responsible approach.

#1 It's a shame that this bloke gets to write articles on the game

In relation to the article as a whole, it is is much like comparing apples to oranges or in the case of the author of this article a gin bottle to a scotch bottle.

 

[The DoggFather]

What time does this comical farce start tonight?

 

[dogluva]

What time does this comical farce start tonight?

There are several players going to fight charges tonight. Klemmer will have his case heard at 6pm.Link to live blog below

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...e/news-story/8f08e1faf653e16c0d3d109e76a4c5c0

 

[The DoggFather]

Thanks Mama